Why ChatGPT will be the next big growth channel (and how to capitalize on it) | Brian Balfour

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Why ChatGPT will be the next big growth channel (and how to capitalize on it) | Brian Balfour
Brian Balfour is the founder of Reforge, the former VP of Growth at HubSpot, and a student (and teacher) of product growth. Brian has studied every major platform shift—from Facebook to Apple to Google—and he’s spotted a pattern that’s about to repeat with ChatGPT. *In this conversation, you’ll learn:* 1. The 4-step cycle every platform follows (and why ChatGPT just entered step 2) 2. Why ChatGPT’s platform launch could be bigger than Facebook’s early platform 3. The exact signals that ChatGPT will launch a third-party platform within six months 4. Why you have six months (not years) to make your platform bet 5. Why companies that don’t integrate with ChatGPT will lose to competitors that do 6. How Zynga grew to $1B by betting on Facebook’s platform early (before it was obvious) 7. Why so few companies are actually doing what they need to be doing right now *Brought to you by:* DX—The developer intelligence platform designed by leading researchers: http://getdx.com/lenny Basecamp—The famously straightforward project management system from 37signals: https://www.basecamp.com/lenny Miro—A collaborative visual platform where your best work comes to life: https://miro.com/lenny *Transcript:* https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/why-chatgpt-will-be-the-next-big-growth-channel-brian-balfour *My biggest takeaways (for paid newsletter subscribers):* https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/i/170294620/my-biggest-takeaways-from-this-conversation *Where to find Brian Balfour:* • X: https://twitter.com/bbalfour • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bbalfour/ • Website: https://brianbalfour.com/ • Substack: https://blog.brianbalfour.com/ • Podcast: https://www.reforge.com/podcast/unsolicited-feedback *Where to find Lenny:* • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ *In this episode, we cover:* (00:00) Welcome back, Brian! (04:13) The changing landscape of product growth (05:09) The importance of distribution (08:14) The role of new distribution platforms (09:45) The four-step cycle of distribution platforms (17:38) Examples of platform cycles (30:01) The rise of ChatGPT (44:47) The future of AI agents (46:01) Preferred partners and platform credibility (47:18) Monetization mechanisms and free tiers (48:14) Betting strategies for startups (01:04:34) Adopting AI tools: challenges and strategies (01:08:41) The importance of hard constraints (01:14:23) Effective AI adoption in companies (01:19:05) Lightning round and final thoughts *Referenced:* • The Next Great Distribution Shift: https://blog.brianbalfour.com/p/the-next-great-distribution-shift • Brian Balfour: 10 lessons on career, growth, and life: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/brian-balfour-10-lessons-on-career • This Week #9: Breaking into growth, leading with influence, and (not) stepping on toes: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/this-week-9-breaking-into-growth • Distribution vs. Innovation: https://a16z.com/distribution-vs-innovation/ • On Platform Shifts and AI: https://caseyaccidental.com/on-platform-shifts-and-ai/ • How to sell your ideas and rise within your company | Casey Winters, Eventbrite: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-sell-your-ideas-and-rise-within • Thinking beyond frameworks | Casey Winters (Pinterest, Eventbrite, Airbnb, Tinder, Canva, Reddit, Grubhub): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/thinking-beyond-frameworks-casey • ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/ • Claude: https://claude.ai/ • Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/ • Vine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine_(service) • Periscope: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_(service) • Myspace: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace • Friendster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster • AltaVista: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltaVista • Lycos: https://www.lycos.com/ • HubSpot: https://www.hubspot.com/ • Zynga: https://www.zynga.com/ • TBPN: https://www.tbpn.com/ • Deedy Das on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debarghyadas/ • ChatGPT’s product retention curves are a product manager's wet dream: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/debarghyadas_chatgpts-product-retention-curves-are-a-activity-7338384752393035776-ice1/ • Windsurf: https://windsurf.com/ • Building a magical AI code editor used by over 1 million developers in four months: The untold story of Windsurf | Varun Mohan (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-untold-story-of-windsurf-varun-mohan ...References continued at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/why-chatgpt-will-be-the-next-big-growth-channel-brian-balfour _Production and marketing by https://penname.co/._ _For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com._ Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.
Why ChatGPT will be the next big growth channel (and how to capitalize on it) | Brian Balfour
Here are the key takeaways from “Why ChatGPT will be the next big growth channel (and how to capitalize on it)” with Brian Balfour:
  • New Distribution Cycle: Brian outlines a pattern that all major platforms (Facebook, Google, Apple) follow—a four-step cycle:
      1. Market conditions are ripe but no clear winner.
      1. The leader emerges by building a moat (e.g., context/memory for AI).
      1. Platform opens to third parties for rapid expansion and ecosystem development.
      1. Eventually, the platform closes to control/monetization.
  • ChatGPT at a Critical Juncture:
    • We’re at step two: ChatGPT (and potentially Gemini/Claude) is about to open their platform to third parties, marking a rare, short-lived window for exponential growth—similar to the Facebook platform gold rush.
    • This wave is expected within the next six months: companies have a limited time to move.
  • Why Move Fast:
    • If you don’t integrate with this new channel, your competitors will—and customer expectations will rapidly shift.
    • Startups must be focused: pick a single platform to bet on and go all-in. Larger companies can hedge bets, but if late, they risk missing the “escape velocity.”
  • Signals & Rationale:
    • Retention and engagement are better predictors of long-term success than just user numbers. ChatGPT’s engagement outpaces competitors, indicating it’s likely to win this round.
    • Major signals suggest OpenAI will soon launch a third-party platform (job posts, new agent modes, preferred partnerships)—but even if you’re unsure who will win, picking your bet and acting fast is crucial.
  • Historical Precedents:
    • Facebook, Google, iOS, and smaller ecosystems (e.g., Udemy) all followed the open-to-exploit, then close-to-monetize pattern. The cycle is getting shorter, so seizing the opportunity matters more than ever.
  • Advice for Founders & Product Teams:
    • Play the game—don’t abstain or try to wait it out.
    • Make a focused, strategic bet on which platform (likely ChatGPT) to integrate with.
    • As you do, start planning for how to retain control/defensibility for the inevitable “closing” phase—own relationships, build unique data/context, or create network effects outside the core platform.
    • Be ready to pivot quickly as the environment evolves.
  • AI Adoption Inside Companies:
    • The best companies set hard constraints (e.g., no new headcount unless productivity gains can’t be had with AI) and support “catalysts” (early adopters) while helping converts and decisively managing “anchors” (those who resist change).
    • Real AI adoption is often slower and patchier than C-suite decrees suggest; executives must engage directly with the ground floor.
In sum:
ChatGPT is about to become a major new growth channel. Get in early, integrate deeply, and play to win—the window is short, and the returns skew towards the bold and strategic.